Journalist and author Liel Leibovitz joins Antonio and Erik for a deep discussion that “solves all outstanding Israel issues once and for all.” They discuss what’s going on with Israeli and US politics, Israel’s foundational choice ahead, and why wokeness is not penetrating Israel.

LINKS:
Liel’s writings for Tablet: www.tabletmag.com/contributors/liel-leibovitz

RECOMMENDED PODCAST:
Upstream with Erik Torenberg: @UpstreamwithErikTorenberg
Unorthodox from Tablet: www.tabletmag.com/tags/unorthodox

TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Episode preview
(02:06) Askhenazi vs Sephardic
(03:14) Universalism vs Particularism
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(36:08) Christian vs Jewish notions of "Justice"
(48:28) Liel’s political evolution
(51:42) Palestinians vs Israelis
(59:53) Abraham Accords - Obama vs Trump approach to Israel
(1:06:00) What do the left vs right of Israel believe?
(1:11:00) What does Netanyahu want
(1:15:02) Liel is Long-term bullish, short-term bearish on Israel
(1:18:00) Israel isn’t dependent on the U.S. anymore
(1:28:27) What would Liel’s smartest critic say about this conversation?
(1:33:52) Future of America / Israel relationship

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Thank you Michelle Poreh for production.