Dec 12 2023 ------ On Episode 19 of the Zero Rights Reserved Podcast, hosts Toady Hawk and Prof Werder sat down with Roy aka Zeneca, founder of ZenAcademy, and the 333 Club, cohost of the Two Bored Apes podcast and beloved web 3 educator! We talked with Roy about his journey from playing poker professionally, to teaching NFT-curious people when to hold'em. We dig into what it was like to build ZenAcademy through the bull market and the bear, the realities of founder burnout, and why he believes that many projects should concentrate on building communities not companies. And of course we had to ask Roy for his takes on Nouns and CC0, a topic he has written about extensively. We hope you enjoy this conversation with a true legend of the space! --- Timestamps: 00:00 - Communities and Companies 01:58 - Intro 02:57 - Poker Days 03:50 - Crypto journey 06:00 - The difficulty of HODLing through multiple crypto cycles 07:35 - The “Zeneca” backstory 10:23 - Zeneca x Seneca wen? 11:06 - The Zeneca Spreadsheet Era 13:43 - Experience building a community during the bear market 16:16 - Lessons learned from the previous cycle 18:11 - “Infinite Regret” 22:00 - Taking profits when you know all the project leaders or are in the public eye 24:47 - The Denizens PFP Collection 28:28 - ZenAcademy DAO? 30:57 - How can NFT projects grow without extracting from their communities? 32:00 - Communities vs Companies 33:37 - Recent tweet announcement about the future of ZenAcademy: x.com/Zeneca/status/173166963... 35:00 - Being honest about burnout and mental health 39:28 - Zeneca the Writer 42:00- The importance of education in this space 44:00 - What is Zeneca looking forward to most in this coming cycle? 48:00 - Roy on Nouns 51:00 - Thoughts on CC0 and other IP experiments 56:00 - Roy on Royalties 1:00:00 - Crypto / Poker Overlap 1:03:00 - Outro --- Podcast recorded by Toady Hawk, edited by Toady Hawk and JackWyldes. Hosted by Toady Hawk and Prof Werder. Music by SuperTightWoody. Zero Rights Reserved, please remix and reuse our content in any way you like! Produced by The Noun Square onchain media collective. Follow @thenounsquare on Twitter for daily content about Nouns, NFTs, Ethereum and more or visit tns.wtf to learn more about us.